Wednesday, October 17, 2018

STANDARD HOTEL OWNER ANDRE BALAZS, KATIE FORD, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING NETWORKS


Andre Balazs is the owner of the Standard Hotel in West Hollywood that Q referenced in a post back on April 20, 2018. [18]

Nobody seems to have caught on to the fact that Balazs worked in the biotech industry before becoming a hotelier, which is HUGELY suspicious because the biotech industry relies on a constant supply of human tissue to make its products.

Let's look closer...

Andre Balazs' Background

Before he became a hotelier, Balazs worked at BioMatrix, his family's New Jersey based biotechnology company. [1]

Andre's grandfather Endre Balazs started the company up in 1981, where he developed a biomedical product that's manufactured out of hyaluronan, a "viscoelastic polysaccharide present in all tissues of the human body but in large amounts in the vitreous of the eye and the soft tissues of joints and skin." The process for making this product involves extracting the hyaluronan (from fresh human corpses) and purifying it in order to make a biomedical product used in surgery. [2]

Did you get that? BioMatrix requires harvested human tissue to manufacture its products. Having worked there for his grandfather (probably in an administrative capacity, since he doesn’t appear to have any technical training), Andre Balazs would be familiar with the biotech industry and would probably have connections to companies that need tissue on a regular basis, as well as to tissue suppliers.

Andre Balazs married a woman named Katie Ford in 1985. [4] At the time of their marriage, Katie worked at her family's modeling agency, Ford Models, Inc. [8]

Balazs worked at BioMatrix until 1990 when he decided to venture into the hotel industry by buying the Chateau Marmont in Hollywood. This was the first in a string of ritzy boutique hotels he has purchased over the years. [4] He opened the first Standard Hotel on Hollywood’s Sunset Strip in 1999, intending it to be an “affordable” if individualistic property, but the chain quickly attracted a high-end clientele. [19]

Meanwhile, Katie took over her family business in 1995, and as CEO she expanded it into a vast network of modeling scouts and recruiters that spans the globe, turning the business into one of the largest modeling agencies in the world with many high-end clients. [8]

BioMatrix was sold to Genzyme in 2000 for an estimated $738 million. [1] Endre Balazs, the owner of BioMatrix, was taken to court by Genzyme for artificially inflating the company's stock value in the months leading up to its sale in 2000. [3]

By 2010 Genzyme was the third largest biotech company in the world, with a presence in approximately 65 countries, including 17 manufacturing facilities and 9 genetic-testing laboratories, and employing over 11,000 people. They generated $3.8 billion in revenue in 2007. They’ve been buying up many smaller biotech companies over the years. [6]

In 2013, Balazs detached the Standard brand from Andre Balazs Properties, the company that holds his wider hotel and real estate empire. He formed a separate management company — Standard International — selling an 80% stake to a group of private individuals for an undisclosed price. [19]

In 2017, Balazs stepped down as chairman of the Standard Hotel brand, retaining a 20% share in Standard International and stakes in some of the individual hotels within that brand. He continued to own and manage other hotels outside of the Standard brand. [19]

Side Note: Standard Hotel employees were once caught dumping two 50-gallon drums of chemicals down a storm drain. One of the chemicals they were dumping - muriatic acid - is very similar to hydrochloric acid in that it can dissolve bone and tissue. [1]

More on Katie Ford

In 2004, Andre and Katie got divorced. [4] By this time, Ford Models was representing many high-end clients like Naomi Campbell and Kristy Brinkley. [8]

In 2007, Katie stepped down as CEO of Ford Models. In 2008, she decided to become an activist against human slavery after attending a UN human trafficking conference. [9]

A more recent 2018 interview with Katie reveals that she started her anti-trafficking crusade only after she was asked to speak at the UN's human trafficking conference in 2008, even though she admits she knew nothing at all about the subject at the time. [12] What??? Why was she asked to speak? The UN is a very Satanic organization that the Deep State is a part of and has the same globalist agenda, so it's suspicious that she got involved in campaigning against human trafficking in the way she describes. I think there's an important connection here.

In the same interview, Katie describes how when she was younger, her family business would bring girls into the US from other countries, offering them "a hope and a dream" and "a better life financially" that "included stardom". [12] Isn't that what human trafficking victims are often told?

Soon after deciding to become an activist, Katie was made the Global Ambassador for an organization called Free the Slaves. [9] Free the Slaves advertises itself as a non-profit organization that saves, rehabilitates and educates slavery victims, while also conducting substantial advocacy on their behalf. [11]

Katie later started up her own non-profit organization, called the Katie Ford Foundation. [9] According to their marketing literature, the Katie Ford Foundation develops campaigns to raise awareness about human trafficking. Such campaigns have taken place in Montenegro, Ireland, Venezuela, Peru, Brazil, Malaysia and the Philippines. In addition to providing information about Free the Slaves, they partner with local anti-trafficking organizations that have a trafficking hotline. [10] This would put them in a strategic position if they were working for international human trafficking networks.

Free the Slaves co-founder Kevin Bales described Katie this way:

“Many activists are long on passion but short on strategy and organization. Katie’s got the skills of the business world combined with a sense of style.” [9] Scouting for and managing models could also come in handy when scouting for and managing sex slaves or future organ donors.

What other skills does Katie have that she can apply to fighting human trafficking? She points out that she has a knowledge of immigration laws from bringing models into the country, which she feels would be useful. [9] It's interesting that she already had experience in bringing people into the country and knew all the legal issues involved before she even started. Note that Free the Slaves doesn't advertise that it relocates people to other countries. So why does Katie consider this a useful skill?

Katie held a Free the Slaves benefit at Andre Balazs' Standard Hotel in New York on Oct. 20, 2010 to raise money from celebrities to help fight human slavery around the world. Andre was in attendance. [11] Nothing was said in the write-ups about what their fundraising goal was or how much they actually raised, and no explanation of what they intended to do with the money they raised - just a lot of celebrity names being dropped.

At some point, she also founded Freedom For All, another anti-trafficking foundation.

In the 2018 interview, Katie explained that her organization's activities consisted of working mainly in foreign counties where slavery is an internal problem. [12] These are places where poverty is extremely high and parents will often sell their children or even hand them over for free. Easy pickings for rich Americans who come with promises of a better life for these children. And nobody can keep an eye on what they're actually doing in these foreign countries or who might be working with them there.

She goes on to claim that with her partner organizations, she's been able to save over 10,000 people over the past few years. [12] No mention of who those partner organizations are, how many people her own organization was responsible for saving, or how they helped in saving them. Nor is there any mention of how much her foundation contributed in the way of funding. Just taking credit. And how does she know that all these people were actually saved?

Is Katie really rescuing human trafficking victims? Or is she providing a front for human traffickers? Is her foundation there to soak up donations that would otherwise be used to catch these human traffickers or save their victims? Do they use those donations to finance human trafficking operations? Does she play a part in something much bigger, related to UN-level operations?

Side Note: Remember Laura Silsby, who got caught trying to smuggle 33 children out of Haiti back in 2010? She was in heavy debt and had just lost her house to foreclosure when she headed to Haiti. Who prompted her with the idea to go, and who funded her? Was it one of these foundations? Why did the Clintons take such an interest in intervening in her case? What were Michael and Max Maccoby doing at that orphanage? Why does Silsby's story not stand up to scrutiny? Where was she really taking the children? For whom? What was she really involved in and how was it organized? Who were the masterminds? I don't think Laura even knew, because that's the way powerful people set these things up and that's why a lot of different people are used who you wouldn't think were involved because of their covers. Sometimes these people don't even know what they're involved in, and believe the cover story. Sometimes the cover story is exactly the opposite of what’s really going on.

We can't look at these people in isolation. We have to consider them in context to the bigger picture.

Biotech Companies and Tissue Brokers

To draw out the bigger picture, I did some research on the tissue brokering industry. Here's what I found out:

- Planned Parenthood operates its own fetal tissue harvesting network. How it works is they have tissue technicians placed in every abortion clinic that’s affiliated with them, and these techs are sent email orders from PP and fill whatever ones they can based on what they can collect from their daily scheduled abortions, and then they ship the tissues directly to the buyer through UPS. The buyers pay a 'service fee' in order to avoid legal issues for selling human body parts. [7] 

- The illegal organ trafficking trade involves a host of offenders. There is a recruiter who seeks out the ‘donor,’ there is a transporter of the organs, there are staff of the hospital or clinic that receives the organs, and of course the medical practitioners who perform the transplants. There are also middlemen, contractors, buyers and the banks that store the organs/tissues. [13]

- Kidneys, which are by far the greatest in demand (for organs), are often bought from living donors for as little as a few hundred dollars, and can be sold for as much as $200,000. [13]

- The average buyer spends $150,000 (though prices in excess of $200,000 are common) while the average donor gets $5,000. The big profits go the middle men and “organ brokers”. [14]

- A living donor can give a whole kidney, a portion of their liver, lung, intestine or pancreas. Otherwise, the donor must be declared brain dead while circulation and oxygenation remain intact. [14]

- There are "broker-friendly" hospitals, complete with surgeons who either don't know or don't care where the organs come from. [14]

- Typically a broker will team up with a funeral home director, forging consent forms and a death certificate to harvest human tissue before the body is cremated or buried. [14]

- The training required to be qualified to remove organs and tissues from fresh corpses is minimal. [15]

- The process for setting up a tissue brokering business consists of filling out a form that can be downloaded from the FDA’s website. There is no wait for approval or inspections and you can start doing business right away. [20]

- Bones, skin, tendons, and heart valves can be cut out and used to create medical devices that can be sold for profit around the world. [16]

- Donated tissue routinely goes to for-profit companies, feeding a billion-dollar industry that uses those tissues for everything from repairing a knee to plumping up a penis. [16]

- Overseas and in the US, some companies that profit from human tissue spend considerable resources cultivating sources of fresh bodies. Often, employees of tissue banks are pushed to compete hard with other tissue banks for access to bodies — courting hospitals, funeral homes and morgues. [16]

- The demand for tissue grows more intense every year. One tissue buyer summed up the all-out competition for corpses this way: “Whoever has the most bone wins.” [16]

- In the US alone, which is the biggest market and the biggest supplier, an estimated two million products derived from human tissue are sold each year, a figure that has doubled over the past decade. [17]

- Inadequate safeguards are in place for ensuring that all tissue used by the industry is obtained legally and ethically. In contrast to tightly monitored systems for tracking intact organs such as hearts and lungs, authorities in the US and many other countries have no way to accurately trace where recycled skin and other tissues come from and where they go. [17]

- One of the weaknesses of the tissue-monitoring system is the secrecy and complexity that comes with the cross-border exchange of body parts. The international nature of the industry makes it easy to move products from place to place without much scrutiny. [17]

- It's illegal in the US, as in most other countries, to buy or sell human tissue. However, it's permissible to pay service fees that ostensibly cover the costs of finding, storing and processing human tissues. [17]

- Ground-level body wranglers in the US can get as much as $US10,000 for each corpse they secure through their contacts at hospitals, mortuaries and morgues. Funeral homes can act as middlemen to identify potential donors. Public hospitals can get paid for the use of tissue-recovery rooms. [17]

- Phillip Guyett, who ran a tissue recovery business in several US states before he was convicted of falsifying death records, said executives with companies that bought tissues from him treated him to $US400 meals and swanky hotel stays. They promised: “We can make you a rich man.” It got to the point, he said, that he began looking at the dead “with dollar signs attached to their parts". [17]

- The for-profit companies set up non-profit offshoots to collect the tissue — in much the same way the Red Cross collects blood that's later turned into products by commercial entities. Nobody charges for the tissue itself, which under normal circumstances is freely donated by the dead (via donor registries) or by their families. Rather, tissue banks and other organizations involved in the process receive ill-defined “reasonable payments” to compensate them for obtaining and handling the tissue. [17]

- No centralized regional or global system is in place to assure that products can be followed from donor to patient. [17]

- About 35 per cent of active registered US tissue banks have no inspection record in the FDA database. The typical tissue bank operates for nearly two years before its first FDA inspection. [17]

- Younger tissue is stronger and can be more lucrative for tissue processors because it can be used for higher-value grafts. [20]

So now that we have a general understanding of how the human organ and tissue 'donor' industry operates, we can see how easy it would be to exploit it if we knew a few of the right people and had a source of donors or fresh bodies. At $10,000 a body and as much as $200,000 for a fresh kidney, it could become tempting.

A person in Andre Balazs’ position wouldn't even need to go near any bodies or donors. He would just need to put the seller in touch with the buyer and collect his cut later on.

A person in Katie’s position wouldn't need to know that she's raising funds or warehousing people in shelters as part of a human trafficking operation. She would just think she was setting up shelters and helping people that had little hope otherwise. Even if she visited the shelters, she wouldn't be clued in. Her non-profit might serve to hide the money flowing between the parties involved in such an operation.

A person like Laura Silsby, who was in a state of financial desperation, probably thought she could get herself out of debt by taking part in a 'rescue' operation and wouldn’t ask too many questions. She didn't have to know who was actually backing her if she was funded by a foundation, and she didn't have to know what the children were being used for if she just held them for 'adoptions' that someone else took care of.

Everyone can be compartmentalized.

Let's review the puzzle pieces:

- Modeling agencies that scout and recruit young people from around the world
- Non-profit foundations that collect 'donations' and give 'grants' for 'causes'
- Celebrities who promote 'causes' to draw in 'donations' and make it all appear sincere and legitimate
- 'Donations' that could be used to fund human trafficking operations
- 'Causes' that serve as possible fronts for human trafficking operations
- 'Rescue' operations that require funding
- Shelters and orphanages that warehouse possible donors/slaves for later sale
- Organ and tissue brokers that must constantly look for 'donors'
- Abortion clinics that harvest fetal tissue
- Hospitals, morgues, mortuaries, and funeral homes that supply brokers
- Biotech companies that constantly need human tissue, will pay big $$$
- Rich people who need fresh organs, want expensive biomedical cures/treatments, will pay big $$$
- Rich degenerates who want sex slaves, will pay big $$$

Did I miss anything?

Here's a clue to another piece of the puzzle:

Who, besides the medical industry, depends on human tissue to manufacture many of their products? What type of human tissue is used to make these products? How much is this tissue worth on the black market? Who uses these products more than anyone else? Who is used to promote these products more than anyone else? What is the annual revenue from this industry?

Here's one more hint: Deciem.

I'll leave you with that to ponder.

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[19] AndrĂ© Balazs checks out of Standard hotels – Financial Times 
[20] Body Brokers Leave Trail Of Questions, Corruption
 

Monday, September 10, 2018

Recognizing the Trump Agenda

1) Recognize who was in power pre-Trump, what their agenda is (NWO), and how these people/groups have operated (UN policies vs. US legislation, war for profit, false flags, terrorist groups, mercenary groups, hired protesters, blackmail, MSM control of narrative, etc.).

2) Recognize that Trump has never been associated with any of these people/groups (i.e. CFR, Bilderbergers, etc.) and has never reflected their worldview (NWO).

3) Recognize that post-election false flags, terrorist attacks, MSM fake news and news blackouts, protests, etc. have been directed at stopping or diverting public attention away from Trump's activities as he 'drains the swamp' and Makes America Great Again.

4) Recognize that Trump isn't operating through UN (NWO) policies that undermine legislation (i.e. the Constitution), but is instead resurrecting the Constitution and putting America back in line with what the founding fathers intended (For the People).

5) Recognize that Trump is using the military to back himself, and that he knows that the military is made up of patriots who believe in the Constitution, and that these patriots will not turn against their own people and country if ordered to, and will ultimately refuse their orders and turn on Trump if he ever attempts to use them in that way.

6) Recognize that Trump's agenda is geared to upholding the Constitution and eliminating UN-directed policies that have been undermining it.

7) Recognize that past Administrations have undermined the Constitution and destroyed nationalism by introducing UN-inspired policies that have systematically put everything into the hands of a few through such things as taxation, privatization, post-industrialization, mass immigration, etc., while destroying western culture and replacing it with consumer trends.

8) Recognize that Trump's agenda involves undoing the policies that have destroyed America (and all other western democratic societies), and includes bringing back industry (more and better jobs, more and better products, healthier living), stopping mass immigration (less local competition, more and cheaper housing, less voter fraud, friendlier communities), destroying the FED (removing excessive taxation, eliminating banking scams, control of US currency), and deregulating business practices (more commercial opportunities, more and cheaper products).

9) Recognize that over the years and decades, western society has undergone many forced changes through UN-inspired policies directed at creating an elite-controlled new world order, so that the greatness of the western world we once knew has almost faded from most people's memory. The people of the western world have forgotten or have never experienced what it was once like to live in a free country. Because of these changes and other influences, society has become very sick and diseased. Rampant homosexuality and sexual promiscuity, rampant drug use, broken homes, white-collar crime, human trafficking, the loss of Christian values, the forced mix of divergent cultures through mass immigration, loss of healthy and meaningful employment, increasing mental illness, lowered intelligence levels due to poor public education, over-populated cities, ever-rising prices, ever-increasing taxation, a reduction in product choices, etc. This has created a situation where the average person struggles to compete in order to just survive, where people see each other as a threat, where most communities have become cold places filled with strangers instead of friends, where life is becoming empty of meaningful experiences, where the hope for something better is the only thing that keeps people going even though it never comes because forced changes continually interfere. All of this has been intentional on the part of the globalist elite. All of this has been part of the globalist agenda of those who seek to impose a new world order, to weaken the masses and take away their ability to do anything for themselves, to destroy Christian-based morals and values and replace them with their own non-Christian (Satanic) morals and values.

10) Recognize that Trump's agenda and actions support the US Constitution, which has been systematically undermined by elite globalist powers tied to the UN in order to bring about a new world order. Understand that Trump knows the depth of the problem, where it stems from, and how to deal with it using the full power of the presidency. Understand that Trump is systematically removing the strings of power that these globalist elite have used to maintain control over the rest of us. Understand that Trump has been carefully planning this for a long time. Understand that Trump has been very careful from the beginning to cover himself so as not to let on to the elitists what his plans were until it was too late for them to react effectively. Understand that Trump has no corruption on his record. Understand that Trump has never been owned or controlled by anyone (but now willingly places himself as a servant of the People). Understand that this puts him in a unique position as President of the United States that hasn't occurred in a very long time. Understand that his winning the election was unexpected by the elite powers. Understand that because of this, they're fighting hard to undermine his agenda and are using everything at their disposal. Understand that without their ownership or control, Trump is not a puppet of the globalist elite. Understand that Trump's agenda undermines globalization and elite control.

Watch and listen carefully to what Donald Trump promised pre-election:

                  

Don't be fooled by the elitist-controlled MSM. If you don't yet know about the TRUE history of world events over the last 250 years and what has really taken place, please educate yourslelf and don't be afraid to ask others who have the knowledge to help you in doing so.

Trust and believe that the world is now changing for the better. Stand by Trump. What better hope do you have?

Saturday, September 8, 2018

Some Comments on Q

The truth is, I hated Trump and thought much the same as you about him until this last week, after going through all of Q's posts. My mind is rapidly being changed. I started reading the posts with a lot of skepticism, thinking that this was probably just another hoax put out on 4chan. I even started writing an article to warn people about it, but at a certain point I realized that Q really is connected to Trump. The proof is there. I ended up trashing my first article and wrote the one I posted earlier instead.

If this was any kind of hoax, the effort being put into it has been beyond just extraordinary (try impossible), and it would serve no purpose to carry it on for this long with no end in sight.

If this is some kind of psyop, then it needs to be explained who's running it and why (for starters).

The ever-growing number of proofs confirm that Trump is behind it. That's why the proofs are being given. The early proofs started out as coordinated posts/tweets between Q and Trump, then Q started giving photo proofs, and now that things are moving along with Trump's agenda, we're starting to see the results coming out that fit exactly with Q's predictions as a third type of proof.

Ask yourself...

How does Q get original iphone photos of such things as crates of currency being held in a warehouse and on a plane, images from inside the White House, a photo of the tail end of a NASA rocket or shuttle from inside a hangar, photos of cities that match the places that Trump travels to around the world, most or all of them taken and posted at the same time Trump is at those locations?

How else might Q know months in advance who will be terminated from government office and in what order?

How else could he predict that there would be mass resignations and terminations of CEOs and government officials?

How else do you explain the growing number of sealed indictments on file (50,000+ to date and counting)?

Why else would Trump need an unusually large team of 470 people to assist the new Supreme Court judges he recently put in place after removing most of the others (terminated or forced to resign)? (Usually only about 20-25 people assist)

Why else would Trump sign an EO on Nov.21, 2017 to declare a national emergency and give his administration the power to freeze all the properties and assets of anyone suspected to be involved in human rights abuses (i.e. human traffickers and child abusers)?

Why else would Trump publicly state that he's in the process taking over the Federal Reserve, which controls all the money and is very crucial to the bad guys at the top? (Do your homework on how the FED came about and why it's a problem)

Trump-supporting trolls couldn't pull off something like this. Even without the proofs, the level of detail proves it's far more professional than that. You have to read the posts to really understand. You can't rely on what other people say about things. All that does is lead to confirmation bias and groupthink.

Trump's activities fall directly in line with his promise to "drain the swamp" and what Q laid out in his first posts. Everything Trump is doing is part of a systematic plan that Q has only partially revealed (for obvious reasons). Q's claims aren't changing as he goes along, although they're certainly going to evolve (develop further) as things progress.
 
"I've not seen any proof that these Q posts are written by anyone other than what I will call "Trump supporting trolls"."

Have you looked at any of the many proofs that are constantly given by Q? I'll be posting some with my previous article if I haven't already. What other people write isn't necessarily proof.

You need to study Q's posts for yourself, and you need to focus on the coordination between the posts and Trump's tweets. Q usually gives a signal to indicate when a proof is coming, and then you have to watch Trump's tweets for it. Q will confirm it after it's found.

A second type of proof involves photos that are taken by Q while he travels with Trump. The images (always original iphone images posted immediately after being taken) reflect where they are, and the locations and timestamps coordinate with Trump's travel itinerary, including trips that aren't publicly known about until later.

A third type of proof involves predictions of Trump's activities, such as providing a list of the people who will be fired or step down from government positions in the next little while. This might be days, weeks, or months later.
"These posts don't show any real inside knowledge, nor have they even been correct about the overall picture."

I don't think you're really looking. Confirmation bias. You're letting other people do your research, and your opinion is already made up. That's why you think you already know what the overall picture is. How can you possibly know that?
"Q's theory (which seems to keep evolving to fit the circumstances) was that Mueller was working secretly with Trump , not against him. Now that this theory appears wrong, the Q-morons don't know what to think since their theories have not panned out as expected."

Q's 'theory' hasn't changed at all, that I'm aware of. Can you elucidate? I don't know anything about the issue of Mueller changing, but Q let it be known that in some cases he will give disinformation because he knows the bad guys are watching, but he will correct the information and fill people in with a logical explanation once it's safe to do so. I trust that, given the circumstances.

This is information warfare, so you need to understand the game. You don't just tell your enemy your plans. You lead them into corners.

This is why people need to pay close attention to Q's posts. They are very informative as to what's going on in the Trump Admin and the world at large (real news), as opposed to what you'll read in the MSM (fake news). Prior to Q coming along, people had little idea what Trump was doing because the MSM was purposely misreporting or not reporting at all.

Not everyone is aware of or believes the level of evil going on in the world, or who is behind it and what they're involved in. It requires a lot of research and study to grasp the extent of it all. Most people have no idea about the true history of events, or of the plans that those in control have in store for the rest of us. The media (all forms) has been used to control our perceptions and condition our thinking for about 100 years now. Who controls the media? Do your homework. What's their agenda? Do your homework. (Hints: NWO, Jewish prophecy, Zionism, Communism, Socialism, Marxism) This isn't conspiracy 'theory'. There is a real conspiracy going on, of massive proportions. The controlled MSM has been attacking conspiracy 'theorists' heavily for the last two decades (since 9/11 but it goes back much further) because they pose a real threat to the bad guy's plans and activities. They want people like you to think that we're all just crackers and cheese. They don't want you to look at anything too closely. They hire whole armies of people (think CrowdStrike) to go online and post stupid and crazy shit to disrupt, confuse, and make conspiracy 'theorists' look bad. That's what shills and trolls are. Alternative websites have become tainted as well. Many of them are controlled by the same people, and they're more dangerous because people have no real way to know how reliable their information is. They might report accurately for a while, and then suddenly start dropping false information when they have the audience they want (using demographics, psychographics, etc.). It's gotten quite sophisticated with all the metadata and analytical software they have access to.

It all came to a head with Trump's public condemnation of the MSM. He used this knowledge to win the election. He created 1000s of websites and used them near the end of his campaign to heavily promote himself through social media, drowning Facebook and Twitter with clickbait articles that allowed his team to watch the psychographics and demographics and then publish articles that were directed at and would fit a particular audience's psychological profile in order to get their vote. That was genius.

This shows that Trump knows how to use social media very effectively. He knows that the MSM is controlled, and by who. He knows what their agenda is. He knows what I and many others know. We can see that the MSM continually lies and covers for certain parties while pushing a particular agenda. We can see that they're attempting to condition people to remain asleep as certain changes take place. We can see the efforts that they will go to more and more often (false flags, terrorist attacks, 'suicides', assassinations, etc.) in order to control people's perceptions and stop the truth from coming out.

Given all this, there is no reason NOT to look at Q's posts and give them serious consideration. Q detailed some of this very real conspiracy in his earliest posts in order to get the attention of the people who are already on the same page about it. He knew these people would take his posts more seriously than anyone else, and they're the ones who he expected to crack the codes first and recognize that he was legitimate. From there, it was a matter of getting the word out, which is happening now. How it unfolds in the future is uncertain, but given the fact that Q's posts prove to be legitimate, more people will begin to recognize this and begin to pay attention and wake up from the enchantment of the MSM.

According to Q (who has access to the metadata), he currently has several 100 million people paying attention to his posts. It's been increasing steadily over the months, particularly when the MSM tries to draw attention away from him with sudden floods of negative opinion pieces (not real reporting).
"I do agree, though, that Trump does seem to aware of what was written in some of these Q posts and he seems to be playing along with it...for example Trump's bizarre "Tippy top" Easter speech. Its also possible that Q used that term, Tip Top, because it's a Trump favourite, but I kind of doubt it was a coincidence. I think Trump was referencing the Q post- and that is scary.

It's scary not because I think Q is really someone with secret inside knowledge who is fighting corruption (I think that theory is BS) but it's scary because it's possible that Trump is actually working with these crazy Q posters."

It's very possible that this is a ruse by Trump, but that requires an explanation as to why. What's his agenda? I can't think of any.

Is it to manipulate conspiracy 'theorists' into a corner? That means he has a deeper plan, or is in league with the bad guys. Which is it? What would be the purpose?

Is it to build a strong constituency out of what you refer to as morons? That would mean he's only interested in using them to maintain the presidency and get support for whatever agenda he really has that is other than what Q explains. So what's the agenda? Why would he want a constituency of morons?

I can't think of any other possibilities. The two above would need to be explained better to show how they might work, and to what ends. The first one is plausible, but leads to intense speculation and requires far more insight before it can be ascertained. That would suggest analyzing Q's posts to get that insight. The second possibility is just stupid. There's no conceivable agenda I can think of to explain it. Sure, the conspiracy crowd is huge, but the majority of them aren't really as stupid as you think. That's the MSM and shill activity influencing your judgement. Anyone who comes across the truth about certain things has the conditioned reflex to doubt it, only because we've ALL been led to believe otherwise.

I could list many dozens of historical events I've researched over the years and discovered were not at all as they were reported in the MSM or recorded in the history books. Many others are just as aware. This is how the conspiracy crowd originated. The internet opened up communication between people who would otherwise have never been able to come together and share their bits of knowledge. It's been a growing problem for the bad guys over the years. Most of the people who have had vital (conspiracy-related) information to share are very intelligent people and their information is usually quite accurate. It's those who receive it and misunderstand it or distort it to fit their preconceptions that causes the problems. Few people will research anything for themselves, and with the internet churning out every conceivable variation of the truth imaginable, it becomes very difficult to sort it all out and know what to believe and what not to. Personal research is vital.

So here we are with the 'crazy Q posters'. They're no crazier than the crazy MSM posters. I see no marked difference in the general intelligence levels between the two groups. You can find nonsense coming from both. You can also find intelligent thinking coming from both. It all depends on what you choose from among them to ingest. If you're seeing obvious nonsense, you should try a better source of information. Not everyone is on the same page, and not everyone has the same level of insight or intelligence. It's up to you to distinguish that and choose appropriately.
 
"I've found the entire Q premise to be laughable considering that what they are really suggesting is that Trump, who is undoubtedly a narcissistic petty man who we all know is a liar, a serial adulterer and a cheater who pays off porn stars, etc. .. is actually some kind of "super hero" who is trying to rid the world of corruption. This is illogical."

I don't know if I would call him a narcissist. A bit of an ego maybe, but so what? Petty? In what way? Liar? When, exactly?

Can you show any evidence that he's corrupt? A billionaire with a taste for beautiful women is bound to have a few scandals over the years. That isn't uncommon and it isn't corrupt. Give it the break it deserves. He's not a rapist or a child molester, like certain others.

I've looked for evidence of Trump's dark past. I couldn't find more than a few weak claims. Trips to pedo Epstein's Island don't mean anything more than maybe he was invited and now knows what Epstein is involved in (obviously not caught up in it himself). An audio recording of him saying in private how easy it is for him to get pussy. A few women who made public claims about his sexual conduct to exploit him for money. Allegedly rubbing elbows with the mob. That's about it. No actual evidence of anything corrupt.

Have you got anything better than what I listed? Am I wrong about anything here?

Trump has a personality that befits a man of power and wealth who made it on his own and has never had to bow down to anyone, and although he can be a little coarse with the way he talks about people he doesn't like, it's not that bad, really. I talk the same way. He provokes on purpose, and for strategic reasons. I do the same. He's a complex man and extremely intelligent, as I'm finding out. I respect intelligence.

I'm not saying Trump is a super-hero or even an angel, but I think the media (not just the MSM) and herd thinking are influencing all of us a little too much these days.

I wouldn't have said any of this a week ago. I originally didn't care much for Trump because I don't like the idea of people being that wealthy while so many others suffer and starve. But that's how I've been conditioned, and I recognize that. I also distrust super-rich people because of their power and influence. But that's all the more reason to watch Q. If Trump is up to no good, it will eventually show. It's better than sticking my head in the sand and waiting for someone else to tell me what they think is going on above-ground. That's basically how it was until Q came along.
 
"These [Q] posts don't show any real inside knowledge, nor have they even been correct about the overall picture."

What do you think the overall picture is? How do you think Q is wrong about it? Just that Mueller thing you mentioned, or something else?

Do you believe all that about Clinton/Soros/Rothschild/etc. being Satanists? Do you believe that international pedo rings and sexual blackmail are real? Do you think Q (i.e. Trump) means what he says about going after them and locking them all up?

Q started posting on Oct 28, 2017. It's been just over 10 months. In that time. a lot has happened that lines up perfectly with Trump's plan, as laid out by Q in his first posts.

In all this time, no one in the MSM has bothered to ask Trump about Q (until very recently). They're afraid to. They know that Q is real and they have an agenda to label this as a conspiracy (???), or a conspiracy theory (???), or just a group of crazy Trump-supporters, as you called it. But none of these memes are accurate. They reflect the fact that the posts haven't been properly analyzed by the people making the comments. The MSM doesn't dare to actually give an honest and unbiased analysis and report of Q. Instead they just mock or try to raise people's fears about allegedly dangerous conspiracy theorists. Ask yourself why that might be (apart from the fact that they rarely do honest reporting anyways).

Trump knew this would happen, and even encouraged it during the elections, and now he's using it to his advantage in an ingenious way. At this point the MSM is trying to whitewash Trump's actions and must either come up with lies and distortions to explain them away, or ignore them altogether. Instead, they spend their time writing insane articles that just attack Q and Qanon, and this sort of action will only destroy their credibility in the end.

Meanwhile, the number of people watching him (both friend and foe) is currenrtly in the 100s of millions and increasing steadily. With the MSM giving him any attention at all, more people are drawn to look. This is what's occurring now. As things continue and the truth about Q becomes more obvious, the MSM will be doomed. The MSM may not even last that long. Trump may have something special planned that Q hasn't even hinted at yet.